waltzy:
TVLINE | Do you think part of Karofsky dreams of a future with Kurt?
No. I never thought Karofsky lusted after Kurt. I never saw it as sexual; I always saw it as a yearning for a genuine human connection. Karofsky’s whole life has kind of been playing this role and being what everyone wants him to be and tells him to be. But [then] he sees Kurt as a beacon of hope — somebody that can truly be who they are, say what they want to say, feel what they want to feel, and not really care what society has to say about it. And I think that’s such an admirable trait. Karofsky finds that so incredible and has such respect for Kurt. I think that’s what it’s been; I don’t think he imagines this life-long love with Kurt. I think there is a true friendship there. Kurt really is the guy that helps Karofsky see the light and brings him out of his darkness.
TVLINE | There are some fans who prefer Kurt with Karofsky instead of Blaine. Is it your understanding that that isn’t going to happen?
That is my understanding. I think there’s been too much history between the two of them to just completely forget about that and start a full-fledged romance. I think at this point, Karofsky is still dealing with his own struggles and his own identity and is not really stable or healthy enough to jump into a real relationship. I think at this point, Kurt is just an incredible friend, and in a way, a mentor for Karofsky. And I think at this point in their lives, Kurt is just an incredible friend that Karofsky truly needs. And my analogy in reading the script is picturing Karofsky hanging off a cliff by a really thin rope, and Kurt is the only one that is hanging onto him to bring him out from the depths of that.
TVLINE | How big a role will you be playing on the show moving forward?
I won’t be in the next episode after that, but as for the future? There’s [noting certain]. I would love to portray this character the rest of my life. It’s an incredible experience and I’ve learned so much. It’s just been a complete dream to have this opportunity. But as far as actually knowing what’s happening down the road? I don’t know; we’ll just have to see what happens.
http://www.tvline.com/2012/02/glee-max-adler-season-3-karofsky/
(via butterscotchcreys)
Well, I didn’t turn off my laptop. I didn’t have a mild panic attack because of the issues. I didn’t throw my mug of tea at the screen. I didn’t hurl abuse at it either…
I consider it a mild success with some terribly problematic lines/undertones, writers who I wish to punch, significant plot holes and some lingering issues with Kurt’s portrayal.
But there were good things too. THAT I did not anticipate. Namely, Hiram Berry, Sebastian’s story, Darren’s performance of Cough Syrup, Max’s wonderful performance and the focus on future hopes and dreams.
I’m going to make a proper post but I’m breathing a half sigh of relief for my sanity and nerves because these issues are important to me and difficult for me and I was hoping so very much that my favourite show (for all it sucks and makes me want to scream myself hoarse sometimes) wasn’t going to be something I couldn’t watch anymore.
No. No. No. Sorry. Screw this up Glee and you go down in history as an utter disgrace.
singingtomysoul:
couldbeyourlife:
agletthatiscracked:
Kurt caring more about losing Regionals than Sebastian being rightfully punished for assault still makes my stomach turn every time.
JFC, why is it so fucking hard for these writers to understand how utterly fucked up this ~morality~ they are once again forcing on Kurt is? That they are creating a narrative that does nothing more than excuse violence and disempower its victims? That it is possible AND FUCKING NECESSARY to tell redemption stories THAT INCLUDE ANY ACTUAL CONSEQUENCES FOR THE PERPETRATORS?
At this point there is literally NOTHING they could do to further dismantle any positive message they hoped to convey from their bullying story. (Except bring Karofsky back to romanticize his harassment of Kurt. MOTHER FUCKER.)
And this is why the arguments about redemption and forgiveness carry zero weight for me. I can be down for a decent douchebag makes himself a doper person story. And I can be a fan of assholes (hellloo, Santana fan). What I cannot cope with is the idea that Glee consistently puts out there which is there are never consequences for bad behavior done by bad people and that what matters is the bad persons feelings and HELPING THEM and being the bigger person.
If there were consequences for any of these characters (Jesus, even Sue and Santana have had more consequences for their actions than Karofsky and Sebastian FOR EXAMPLE oh wait they’re ladies) it would be one thing.
But every fucking time it has to be Kurt that “sees someones pain” or THINKS A FUCKING SHOW CHOIR COMPETITION IS THE POINT and therefore has to “take the high road” or even in PQ where Kurt has to go back in and “own the moment” (all of which along with Blaine’s assault) were there to EXCUSE KAROFSKY’S ACTIONS AND MINIMIZE THEM.
You know what gets me?
The rock salt is meant for Kurt, Kurt specifically, in particular. Our personal opinions as fans aside, the way he’s used in the narrative he’s not their heavy hitter or their most frequent performer. He’s not their most talented dancer. This isn’t even about the show choir shit. This is about wounded ego. This is about how Sebastian wanted to injure and blind someone who was getting in the way of him sexually harassing an unwanted recipient, to the point that he’s apparently corrupted an entire group of people who used to pride themselves on honor and not doing injury to others.
And everyone else makes this about bullying, fucking bullying, when no, this is about a display of sexual ownership towards someone who doesn’t want the attention. And Kurt of all people should be able to recognize the implications of that and how badly it needs to be stopped in its tracks before boys like Sebastian grow up to be men like Sebastian, but of course he doesn’t. Because the writers don’t.
singingtomysoul:
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Ditto to all of the above. seriously.
I am not making a whole enormous post about this whole “issue” this morning because even though i have my opinions, i separate the actor’s opinions from the characters onscreen and never let it ruin my enjoyment…
But still, people are having very unusual reactions to Chris’ comments. I understand completely how what Chris said upsets people. It’s a storyline i never want to see and i do understand how people may believe Chris does not treasure K/B enough to so flippantly talk about their relationship.
Three things to consider
1) Chris is an actor who wants work to challenge him
2) Chris is obnoxiously in love with controversy and drama. he is highly opinionated and not always going to feel the same way
3) The support and comments from chris for kurt and blaine and how much he has expressed his fondness for them.
it’s a shame because Kurt and Blaine’s story is not only a beautiful example of tender and genuine love done so realistically (and for Glee that’s a lot) but also a source of comfort and inspiration for people who are potentially going through similar things. It’s a poor message to convey, that Karofsky is a viable and support worthy option in terms of romance. to me, personally it’s disgusting. i’d have been absolutely in support of a friendship and well written development of Karofsky’s dilemma.
The thing i find a little mad is the way people are reacting. it is a small throwaway comment in an interview by someone notably interested in a Kurtofsky romance. It comes from an actor’s perspective of what would be ‘interesting’. it is obviously something chris believes as he has reitterated it on twitter but of course he wants drama and something to shake it up. I don’t think Chris would be in anyway interested in playing a long term romantic hero; to me, he has always been extremely and sometimes obnoxiously ambitious and that’s both wonderful and troublesome.
For people to lose faith in the Kurt/Blaine pairing is odd to me. what is on screen is what matters to me. people are claiming that Kurt clearly isn’t as invested - i can’t even say how much i disagree. Kurt has shown absolutely nothing in canon to suggest this. He is smitten and has willingly and with the utmost trust, pursued an intimate relationship with Blaine - there is no way he’d do that if he didn’t love blaine truly.
People have to remember how Kurt is. He’s not as sometimes open and soppy as Blaine, he’s a little more guarded, more wary and spikey and is the sarcastic one of the pair. he’s always going to be the quicker to snap, whereas Blaine has been portrayed as being much more deep and smitten. just because Kurt dreams of romance doesn’t mean he’s going to be the softer and more dreamy of the two - that’s Blaine. Kurt’s notoriously harder.
They’re not safe - no couple on glee ever is but what was said under the ‘read more’ above is so so so so true. to me, they’re such a brilliantly balanced couple. An amazing mix of sparky and sweet, hard and soft, fight and flight etc.
They’re probably not going to be together consistently and i truly wouldn’t want them to be but losing faith in a character’s relationship due to one throw away comment an actor made … there’s just no need. As much as Chris loves to try to ‘pitch’ ideas etc - the writers will write as they wish. they’ll use ideas an actor has if they like them but no way does Chris have as much pull as i think he’d like to.
Don’t worry about what was in that interview. enjoy what is on screen as it plays out and appreciate it for what it is - pretty god damned beautiful. It’s a tv show and some actors hate each other, some have differing opinions but Kurt and Blaine are not Chris and Darren and therefore it makes no difference what Chris feels.
they’ll continue to develop and, just like any Glee couple, will have their troubles.
*cuddles*
